For a first date, I like to talk for awhile. But, I'll be honest I think that there's really not that much that needs to be talked about before it's healthy to get physical. That's what both parties are thinking about the whole time anyway. You can pretty much tell right away if you want to do that stuff. Usually, I will suggest a movie and then the movie gets turned off about 15 minutes into it and we are making out on the couch or bed or whatever. Sometimes that leads into sex, but I prefer it not to. I like to stop about halfway there and talk very openly and honestly, revealing secrets and stuff like that, while in the close embrace. This is honestly what I like to do, for many girls, it is too fast, but then again, most girls are messed up =). Not to say I am perfect, but I do think my way is healthy. So after about an hour or two of really Really getting to know each other in that setting, then I like to go through with full sex, complete with any not too extreme fetishes that either of us have about the other person. Then I prefer to spend the night together. And take it by ear from there. After shacking up for a few days, there can be stuffiness that some girls panic at. These girls disgust me becaue they are the ones that can't, for whatever reason, be involved for any amount of time. So, if ideally we spend a few days and nights together, then it's usually good to make that break, feel the shock of time without the person, wait until just after you think you can't take the desire any longer, then get back together again. That usually makes for a really good, long and very stimulating relationship.